Reading a Harvard Classic, journaling for an MIT open course, watching a Yale lecture. Buckle up, this is about to be the most literated fantastic point of ignorance yet. We’ll have a coffee shop version, an appetizer version and a full course meal for this puppy. Respond and dialog as soon as you want to jump in, regardless of how much you read on this post or in the book.

Coffee: What You Care About

Fireworks. Magic. Cosmic battle. Midgets and Giants. Demons and Angels. Ancient mythology. Modern poetry. All this and more greets us at the front door of Milton’s Paradise Lost. For those of you who enjoy modern poetry, you’ll find some of it old-fashioned. For those who enjoy old-fashioned poetry, you’ll find Milton hates rhymey-dimey verse. Any of you fantasy nerds, if you can get past the iambic-ness of the telling, will love this. And, of course, so will those of you who try to follow Jesus or at least appreciate the O.T.

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Appetizer: What I Care About

My assignment for the M.I.T. course on PL involves 2,400 words (or more) journaling my experience through the epic and interacting over it.

Milton says, in his introduction, that the form is English Heroic Verse without rime. He claims to be following the intentions of people like Homer (in the Greek), Virgil (in the Latin), Dante (in the Italian) and Beowulf (in Old English). Rime seems to be the last thing of importance concerning good verse, according to Milton, his priorities looking more like [1] Matter, [2] Meter, [3] Metaphor. That’s just good poetry. Period.

Not without cause therefore some both Italian and Spanish poets of prime not have rejected rime both in longer and shorter works, as have also long since our best English tragedies, as a think of itself, to all judicious ears, trivial and of no true musical delight; which consists only in apt numbers, fit quantity of syllables, and the sense variously drawn out from one verse into another, not in the jingling sound of like endings–a fault avoided by the learned ancients both in poetry and all good oratory.

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From here, I’ll make one more note. Pandaemonium, the place of “all demons,” seems to be Milton’s parallel to the pantheon, the place of “all gods.” Aside from being brilliant, we’ve grown to use the same word for chaos in general, for saying “all hell broke loose.” Apparently, that’s exactly what happens in book four–“came not all hell broke loose.” Of course, I’m not there yet. From here I’ll take quotes, assuming you have your copy of Paradise Lost handy.

“Invoke thy aid to my adventurous song…” Milton calls us upon the muse like the great epic poem writers before him, but he defines the muse as a different one, as the Holy Spirit himself who inspired Moses on Sinai and who wrote the Torah. Brilliant way to begin if you ask me.

“Of man’s first disobedience and the fruit
of that forbidden tree whose mortal taste
brought death into the world, and all our woe,
With loss of Eden, till one greater Man
Restore us, and regain the blissful seat,
Sing, Heavenly Muse, that, on the secret top
Of Oreb, or of Sinai, didst inspire
That Shepherd who first taught the chosen seed
That with no middle flight… 

The middle flight certainly evokes imagery of Apollo’s son who would scorch the earth if he flew too low or rouse the monsters of the over world if he flew too high, either way risking death. But the middle way, the way of the sun across the course of the sky, brings life to the world and rhythm to the heavens. I’d also mention Icarus who flew too high and melted his wings. This imagery Milton applies to Torah, to the way, the path of the people of God.

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“Assert eternal providence/and justify the ways of God to men.”
Can’t agree with him here. Do you really need to, John? Theodicy seems a bit frivolous motive for a work so grand in scope. Why defend Him if He is indeed innocent and just? Does Justice need justification for its existence in the world? Does Mercy need an excuse to be merciful? I’m reminded of something the Bard said once
“Fall off from their Creator…”
Like fruit would from a tree? Interesting imagery for the fall of demons.
“His doom reserved him for more wrath…”
As in the feeling of torture? I’m reminded of the scene where Captain Malcolm Reynolds is being tortured and the Russian-like villain says, “I don’t like it when you die. If you die, I can’t hurt you anymore and I want at least three days with you.” Eeesh. No thanks.
“No light, but rather darkness visible.”
The concept of shadows with substance fascinates and terrifies me at once, from Balrogs to shadow dancers to Peter pan’s rebellious shadow to Groundhog Day. Once I went down into a cave called “the ballroom cave” on a wilderness week. We lived off of hard tack with nothing but sleeping bags and a tarp to keep the rain off. They helped us to spelunk down into this cave where people had been coming for ages to dance and drink and… well… other stuff. Down there, our guide spread us out all over the main floor of the ballroom and then asked us all to turn out our lights and be still for a full minute. During that minute, I felt like I was sweating shadows, like I could taste it, like it was scratching at my face. It lasted forever, that minute. I don’t mean that as hyperbole–I mean pieces of that minute still live on inside of me. He finally switched his flashlight onto his face and say, “Some think that’s what hell will be like.” Darkness visible. Know what you mean, John…
“Courage to never submit or yield”
Seems more like cowardice to me. “Unyielding” is not a trait I wand my kids to learn or remember in me when I die. I think of Belatrix Lestrange’s wand.
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“To wage by force or guile eternal war.”
By armies or by avarice. By stealing or by stabbing. By lust or by bloodlust. By lies or by arson. We forget how powerful they both are sometimes.
In the excess of joy sole reigning holds the tyranny of heaven.
Put this one in quote blocks because of how it hit me. Joy as tyranny. It’s the foulest creature that would twist such a thing, that would manipulate it at all. To think of joy in those terms reworks the pecking order of virtue into something wholly vice. Those who would write off Milton’s philosophy and theology must reconcile themselves with their own desire not only to be happy, but to experience the flavor and quality of happiness rooted not in temporal salves of the moment, nor in passing pleasure, but in the infinite depth of something beyond the our very selves, of happiness tethered to another otherworldly source. To take that hope, the hope of unending pleasure, and call it tyranny is to immediately villanize yourself against yourself.
“The mind is its own place and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven.”
How many times have we come across a series of books (or films) that show the mind as some sort of room, a library or a dungeon or a white room underground with a grand piano or a tower? If that’s the case, the mind can reengineer inner geography and the emotional responses to that geography in order to fit contentment or discontentment. Perhaps this is why some of the ancient writers said that heaven and hell are the same place, that the glory of God shared in the intimacy off Emmanuel–of perfect immanence–will torture those who, in this life, hardened their heart toward it and liberate, fill with bliss, those who, in this life, chose to follow.
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“To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell: better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.”
This is the fundamental difference between the over world and the underworld. The over world beings have arrived by force of meekness and grace and care for others. The underworld, people arrive with the incessant willing of ambition, of showing how much more powerful they are.
“Made them to transform / Oft to the image of a brute, adorned / With gay religions full of pomp and gold, / and devils to adore for deities;”
The concept that pagan deities are really demons in disguise is an idea seen everywhere, and not just everywhere in theology. We get that impression with mythological studies and stories like Sandman, Kingkiller and a Song of Ice and Fire. Of course I would diverge at that point and talk about God as separate, dissecting, non-localized, over all. Several things set the biblical narrative apart from mythology–sepcifically the resurrection texts, but I also think Milton’s onto something here of Devils to adore for deities. I’ve seen the places of barter where Faustian deals go down all over the planet, where people sell their souls for treats and participate in acts they try to pass off as worship. I suppose it is, but their prayers do not lift up as you might expect. They descend to the depths. Of these Milton lists out Moloch, Chemos, Baalim, Ashtaroth, the male & female and transgender forms the demonic take, of Astoreth, Thammur, Dago, Rimmon, Osiris, Isis, Orus, Belial, Ionian gods, gods “yet to be confessed later than heaven and earth,” their boasted parent ‘Titan,’ his firstborn Saturn, Jove, Azazel on Lucifer’s right, Mammon, Belus, Seraps, Mulciber, etc…
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“Their glory withered as with heaven’s fire / hath scathed the forest oaks or mountain pines.”
A fire that leaves hollow, chard logs of gods. Interesting imagery for hell.
“A summer’s day and with the setting sun / dropt from the zenith, like a falling star.”
Certainly descriptive but also historical where demons are concerned.
“They but now who seemed / in bigness to surpass earth’s giant sons, / now less than smallest dwarves.”
Interesting that Milton has them shrink from colossal size down to ant-size so that they can all fit inside this assembly hall and converse. I think of The Great Divorce by C.S. Lewis where hell is a microscopic piece on the far corner of heaven, down in one of the cracks of one of the pebbles.
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Main Course: What They Care About

After watching this:

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I learned several things from John Rogers and disagreed with him at points. Before I critique, I’d like to say that I’m grateful to Yale for posting these lectures for free online. I’ve never met John so I’ll try to employ the sort of academic courtesy that I expect from my readers here.

Things I learned from the lecture:

  • “protestation of delay” – Milton was long-chosing and beginning late. Late because it’s too late in history (and life) for this to be a political epic like Virgil. It’s too late as well for epic poems. Milton defends lateness by going back as far as he can, by pushing a first-ness that breaks his iambic form, his heritage of Beowulf, Dante, Homer and Virgil as well as the record of Scripture itself–of what came before “In the beginning…” John calls this “poetic disobedience,” a strategy of “retrospective anticipation.” In other words, Milton in subject and form forces us to wait for the fall, to wait even for the fall of demons as he unfolds the story.
  • introduction of enjambment and double-syntax – Milton broke the forms of his day not only by eliminating rhyme but by forcing the lines to blend into one another. Three out of Five lines are enjambed in Paradise Lost, creating long flowing sentences broken up into several lines. “Of man’s first disobedience, and the fruit / Of that forbidden tree…” Does fruit read like a figurative thing, “the fruit of disobedience,” or like a literal thing, “the fruit of that forbidden tree” ? Both. This double-syntax forces us to resist forward progression in the story. Milton forbids us from thinking the story will turn out the way it did, incorporating free choice into a predestined ending.
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Things I disagreed with in the lecture:

  • Milton calls God a hermaphrodite – This is anachronistic for one, but it’s just bad literary interp. Milton came from a long tradition of theologians since the inception of the church who held that creators are above their creation. Because God created gender (male and female), he sits above gender. God is not both genders but neither genders and therefore we learn about him through both the motherly and the fatherly, attempting to “get at” God. I would not tether this to but rather contrast this with the Baalim and Ashteroth who have transgender and hermaphroditic tendencies. Because of this, Milton was not promoting radical theology but orthodoxy — that God is not a sex, but above sex because he created it.
  • Milton, because of his hermaphroditic view of God, is an animist – Again, this depends on a flawed assumption that depends on a flawed assumption.
  • God is portrayed as having sex with himself – Again, I would say that God is not polysexual but asexual in the purist sense–he created sex, why would he need sex to create?

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After all of that rambling, I’m exhausted. Doberman–you were right. This will take some time to digest…


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  1. Doberman

    You may like the first chapter in this…or more. It is worth a look-see.

    http://repositories.lib.utexas.edu/bitstream/handle/2152/3835/bjorko92474.pdf

    1. lanceschaubert

      Fascinating. I’ll have to revisit it in chunks, but I hope to read it all very very soon…

  2. logankstewart

    Wow, so many places to write about.
    1. Glad to see a Firefly allusion.
    2. A fellow blogger sent me this link the other day about a person exploring an abandoned tunnel in Pennsylvania. Relevant and fascinating.
    3. I think of Hebrews 13:2 and Ephesians 6:12 and think along a parallel line for demons and the like.
    4. One of these days I’ll open up my annotated paperback and try some Milton, but not anytime soon. This stuff is exhausting, as you say.

    1. lanceschaubert

      1. Me too.
      2. Wow that was cool.
      3. Good call. Principalities, powers, authorities—i like where you’re thinking.
      4. Yes, I’m a fan of what he accomplished, but his style isn’t for me.

  3. logankstewart

    And for some reason I’ve noticed my Google Reader has stopped giving me updates for when you blog. May have to resubscribe or something, I dunno.

    1. lanceschaubert

      Weird. Is it the RSS or the regular?

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